Talk: Christopher Columbus/Archive 8 - Wikipedia. COUNTERING SYSTEMIC BIASThe examples and perspective in this article deal primarily with North America and do not represent a worldwide view of the subject. For example in Portugal everyone knowns that Colombo was Portuguese born in Portugal, Alentejo, Cuba. That is because it's a proven historical fact. Just because many people believe that he was born in Genoa that doesn't make it true. History is full of examples of false pre concepts. 1492 – Hristoforos Kolomvos (Grecia) Co-Produzione: Gaumont (Francia) L People denie the real true because they are taught with false knowledge. This wikipedia article only deal with the stupid and wrong North American perspective. This project aims to control and (possibly) eliminate the cultural perspective gaps made by the systemic bias, consciously focusing upon subjects and points of view neglected by the encyclopedia as a whole. A list of articles needing attention is in the CSB Open Tasks list. And remind that just because the majority of the people in wikipedia think that he was born in Genoa that doesn't make it true. I've removed the POV- section tag. But. On. Meth. It. Is (talk) 2. 0: 0. December 2. 00. 9 (UTC)Christopher Columbus was Italian. Recognition is due to the fact that he wrote over one hundred publications on the life Columbus. The. Now that may be true, but the claim made isn't backed by the facts. In 1. 50. 0 Columbus wrote to the nurse of Prince Don Juan of Castile (the edit said a friend, but that's wrong) saying. Now that so much gold is found, a dispute arises as to which brings more profit, whether to go about robbing or to go to the mines. A hundred castellanos are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general, and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand, and for all ages a good price must be paid. I assert that the violence of the calumny of turbulent persons has injured me more than my services have profited me which is a bad example for the present and for the future. I take my oath that a number of men have gone to the Indies who did not deserve water in the sight of God and of the world; and now they arc returning thither, and leave is granted them. We can't use this to say Columbus was engaged in selling children as sex slaves. Dougweller (talk) 1. January 2. 01. 0 (UTC)? I think it's probably impossible to prove ships had not gone for longer than 3. Columbus' first voyage.- -mgaved (talk) 1. January 2. 01. 0 (UTC)Of course it can't be proven, but that's not the issue. The only thing I found in Google was that the Santa Maria turned back after 3. I don't think it's credible in the least. But. On. Meth. It. Is (talk) 2. 0: 4. January 2. 01. 0 (UTC). I've gone ahead and removed the offending claim. But. On. Meth. It. Is (talk) 0. 4: 3. January 2. 01. 0 (UTC)Columbus. The Untold Story. Try to visualize everything you were told about that epic 1. Columbus and his discovery of America? His novel idea of opposing a flat earth theory with the belief that the earth was truly round: The trials and tribulations of convincing a court and a scientific committee to sponsor him on a fearless sailing voyage into the dark unknown: The weeks of meandering while lost at sea not knowing if he.
E Francia)1492 - Die Eroberung des Paradieses (Austria / Germania)1492 - Hristoforos Kolomvos (Grecia)Co-Produzione: Gaumont (Francia)L It is truly an amazing and unbelievable . How unbelievable is it to visualize? Now what if you were shown that all that you just imagined is not true? What if you learned that Columbus was never lost, that he was not an ignorant wool weaver but a scholar and genius pilot in his day? That his own notes show he never believed to have reached the real India. That he was instead involved in a treacherous spy- game against Spain and that his name was not Columbus at all! Would you want to find out exactly how the unbelievably incorrect history you were taught came to be? I know hearing that the story surrounding the discovery of America taught for more than 5. That would mean the assertions taught every child from the time he or she enters school would have to be changed. But based on 2. 0 years of systematic research in countries from Poland to the Dominican Republic - utilizing ancient manuscripts to modern DNA and forensic to genealogy - I claim just that. When I immigrated to the United States at the age of twelve I never dreamed I would stumble across such proof tied to my native land, but in 1. Portuguese to English, I began to see how Columbus didn. In fact, I now have enough proof to assert that the man who discovered America wasn. My two previously published books on this subject in Portugal were sellouts. La Historia Nunca Contada (Columbus: The Untold Story) published in Spain is receiving lots of media attention from Spain to Argentina, soon a worldwide publisher is bound to take the newly completed and updated English version, titled . This book will forever change how we view our history and so does Prof. Trevor Hall, Ph. D, Johns Hopkins University, Dr. Marcel Balla, Ph. D, Boston University, Prof. Joseph's University for 3. Found here http: //1. An educated Portuguese nobleman would certainly have been able to write in his native language fluently. Now, four months later, he says that he has . He also says, after 2. We're told above that Columbus's real name was Segismundo Henriques, son of Vladislav lll, of Poland. Yet, the authors' website contradicts this, by telling us that his real name was Latin; . Also, above is used a quote by Professor James T. For starters, Civil Court only takes cases up to $2. Beyond this, a case would go to Unlimited Jurisdiction Superior Court. Would Columbus's patrons (Isabella and Ferdinand) want $2. And speaking of court cases, there would be many against Isabella and Ferdinand, themselves. They drove the Jews out of Spain (Sound like Hitler, anyone?), they, and their Spanish conquistadors, practically stole the entire American continent from the Indians, pushed the Indians into death or slavery, and forced immigration of African slaves to the American continent. After all this, Isabella and Ferdinand have the right to sue somebody in court? The authors' books are just much too juvenile, contrived and catchpenny. It's all much too cloak and dagger and elaborate for a world which has tired of . It never saw the light of day outside of its Portuguese publication. I, honestly cannot see this . Worldwide publishers and public, alike, have known about this theory, in book form, since 2. The latest book is already a year old and it still hasn't grabbed any multi- language demand. It shows that, Worldwide, a sensationalistic approach to a man who died 5. As been said, what were once long chapters in school history books, covering everything from the Roman Empire to World War ll, are nowadays, reduced to just mere paragraphs in school textbooks. Education, itself, is spending far less time and energy on the . ITALIAN. Talk: Christopher Columbus/Archive 8/Editprotected. Columbus was Genovese, i. Further, I believe the statement . Intelligentsium 0. December 2. 00. 9 (UTC)He may have been Genoan, probably he was. But he was not Italian since Italy did not exist at that time as such. Therefore, writing that his nationality was Italian or probably Italian is wrong. It is inaccurate and errors like that should not be in an encyclopedia. The Italian peninsula has been called . Columbus' lifetime was 1. Middle Ages. Genoa was certainly a part of Italia (Italy) during Columbus' lifetime. You're confused by the . Italy DID exist before the XIX century! The Italian peninsula was called . There are maps of Italy shown that begin in the year 1. A small fact also is that he kept his true journals in Greek and psuedo journals in Latin, a small point but very important in the whole scheme of things. This surname exists on the Greek island of Chios prior to Greece's enslavement under the Ottoman empire. When I tried to find the Greek translation of . When (if ever) did the Greeks start using the Roman alphabet? For business purposes only, perhaps? It seems that in Modern Greek, they still use many letters that aren't used in English. I know the Greek alphabet, itself, was based on the Phoenician alphabet. I'm also wondering if there is actually proof of . This doesn't seem like it would be such . I tried to find out where I could see proof of this, but no luck. Is it hearsay, or fact? Clovis. Pt (talk) 1. February 2. 01. 0 (UTC)was it him? The article says that it was Columbus who discovered America men Is not it a little wrong? Under the Constitution, checkers and biologist Lars Thomassen (Dane) bog several unexplained phenomena is at kensingtonstenen So I says: In the year of our Lord 1. Swedes and 2. 2 Norwegians then sailed across the Atlantic to Nordamerika. Minnesota where it died der. Statistics show that people who celebrate the most birthdays become the oldest. He chose the southern route he took in hopes of getting past it to reach China or the Indies. His confusion on reaching the American islands is why we have the . It's my understanding also that the Portuguese began fishing the Grand Banks off Newfoundland a decade or so before Columbus and may have collected American natives for use as deck slaves. America's existence therefore may have been widely known among seafarers before Columbus.- -Virgil H. Soule (talk) 1. 6: 2. March 2. 01. 0 (UTC)Apart from the Indians, who had immigrated from Asia, the first person who set foot upon the Americas was Leif Ericson (9. He was the son of Norway's Eric the Red and an Icelantic mother. It is assumed he was born in Iceland. He set up a temporary settlement in North America, but nothing ever came of it. It is Columbus's voyage that attracted the European settlers (and others) to America. Almost all Encyclopedias (9. Other sources for the avoidance of doubt: 1. References are too easy to be found, so I save list them here. Many of them are real results of research, not simple transcryptions of another authors. Discussion will end shortly when DNA analysis will offer results.
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